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	<title>Comments on: State Treasurer Martin touts successful first year</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Northrop</title>
		<link>http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2007/11/09/state-treasurer-martin-touts-succesful-first-year/41/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Northrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Haran -

You might be taken more seriously if you don't come off like such a whining ninny.  Also, if you used a spell check, that might benefit the perception you are trying to portray, as well.  I actually grew up being Martin's neighbor.  This guy isn't the type to fit into your propagating negativity - campaign.  I mean look at the guy, I want to pinch his cheeks and give him a pat on the back for all the good he is doing for this state.  Instead of being opposed to his seat as Treasurer, why don't you take the time you waste ranting and raving about how he screwed over the country for a whole whopping $19K, and offer your time to his office and see what you can do (not just sit back and "SAY") and be a part of something that betters all of us, instead of just acting like a douche bag.  Look, you have an exemplary background (most people that read your propaganda won't spend the time to see who you are, but I did).  I would wager that it would be to the benefit of the state of Arizona to have you help make it better instead of pointing fingers at what you may contend as being the problem.  Embrace all the experience you have and bring something meaningful to the populace, NOT ALL THIS NEGATIVITY!  

Hell, you guys are both republicans for Pete's sake.  He didn't steal campaign money.  You are chasing a red herring, my friend.  Give it up.  He has the Treasurer position, and will probably be, dare I say...  Are you sitting for this Bob?              "Governor"

So just stop this nonsense, and reach out to him and work with him, not against him.     

When more people like you take personal responsibility and step it up, instead of being the armchair quarterback, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE and it makes this place a lot better to live in.  Good Luck Bob Haran &#38; Congratulations on your position, Dean Martin.  Sorry I got in a fight with you and your sister in 5th grade.  Haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Haran -</p>
<p>You might be taken more seriously if you don&#8217;t come off like such a whining ninny.  Also, if you used a spell check, that might benefit the perception you are trying to portray, as well.  I actually grew up being Martin&#8217;s neighbor.  This guy isn&#8217;t the type to fit into your propagating negativity - campaign.  I mean look at the guy, I want to pinch his cheeks and give him a pat on the back for all the good he is doing for this state.  Instead of being opposed to his seat as Treasurer, why don&#8217;t you take the time you waste ranting and raving about how he screwed over the country for a whole whopping $19K, and offer your time to his office and see what you can do (not just sit back and &#8220;SAY&#8221;) and be a part of something that betters all of us, instead of just acting like a douche bag.  Look, you have an exemplary background (most people that read your propaganda won&#8217;t spend the time to see who you are, but I did).  I would wager that it would be to the benefit of the state of Arizona to have you help make it better instead of pointing fingers at what you may contend as being the problem.  Embrace all the experience you have and bring something meaningful to the populace, NOT ALL THIS NEGATIVITY!  </p>
<p>Hell, you guys are both republicans for Pete&#8217;s sake.  He didn&#8217;t steal campaign money.  You are chasing a red herring, my friend.  Give it up.  He has the Treasurer position, and will probably be, dare I say&#8230;  Are you sitting for this Bob?              &#8220;Governor&#8221;</p>
<p>So just stop this nonsense, and reach out to him and work with him, not against him.     </p>
<p>When more people like you take personal responsibility and step it up, instead of being the armchair quarterback, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE and it makes this place a lot better to live in.  Good Luck Bob Haran &amp; Congratulations on your position, Dean Martin.  Sorry I got in a fight with you and your sister in 5th grade.  Haha!</p>
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		<title>By: BOB HARAN</title>
		<link>http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2007/11/09/state-treasurer-martin-touts-succesful-first-year/41/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>BOB HARAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPEN LETTER TO LE TEMPLAR

Dear Mr. Templar;

If you are going to write about me, it might be a good  idea to contact me and verify your facts before hand. Frankly, just about everything you wrote in the paragraph where my name is mentioned is wrong. 

1. You claim that I continue to complain loudly about Martin's spending in the 2004 race for his last term in the state Senate. Wrong, I have been writing about Martin's redirecting of campaign contributions into his own pocket for almost three years and urging the press to investigate what appeared to be the laundering of campaign contributions through two apparently front companies. Since it has been announced that the FBI is investigating, I have been pretty quite about the matter, except for my reply to Mr. Martin's insults about me published in the Capitol Times. Or maybe it's just that the press is just starting to take notice now that the FBI is involved. All I wanted was an investigation and I got it, now the matter is up to the authorities to handle.  

2. In your next sentence you claim that I'm convinced that Martin broke several state campaign finance laws because Martin paid himself and his wife for expenses related to the campaign. First, I never said that, I never wrote that. Since you don't reveal your source for that statement, I can only assume you made it up. Let me set you straight, I never accused Martin of breaking any campaign finance laws. I know of not a single campaign finance law that he may have broken and certainly not several. If you had none the simplest research before you started writing you would have discovered that I have only accused Martin of intentionally or knowingly violating Arizona Revised Statue, 38-504.C, Conflict of Interest of Officers, Prohibited Acts, a Class 6 felony.  In brief what I'm alleging that Mr. Martin did was to aggressively solicit campaign contributions from persons with business before the legislature and by a circuitous route, redirected those contributions through two business entities he and his wife controlled, allegedly for services, and then into his own pocket. In short Mr. Templer, I discovered that Dean Martin turned his public office into a profit making entity for himself. Maybe Mr. Martin and yourself fell that is perfectly OK, but some of us citizens find it a bit corrupt and the law calls it a conflict of interest.   

Also, if I were merely alleging that Martin was just paying himself and his wife for expenses related to his campaign, there would be no need for an investigation because no law would have been broken and the Attorney General's Office wouldn't have turned the matter over to the FBI if that were the case. Let me make this very simple for you, I don't belief the business' were real. I don't believe that his largest campaign expenditure of $11,903.76 for printing with his company, Digital Print Design, which was just a rented mail drop with no telephone listing, or web site or any other method of marketing was a legitimate business. I don't believe his second largest campaign expenditure, $7,331.54, for "voter outreach," to his wife's company, Grassroots Programs, which was based at the same rented mail drop and which also had no telephone listing or web site or any other method of marketing, was legitimate. Nor do I believe that the over $12,000 that Mr. Martin spent on various electronic and computer equipment, which he gets to keep under his own control was entirely campaign related.  

3- You make a statement that I haven't provided any direct evidence that Martin took money he didn't actually use on the campaign. What I provided the AG's office with was the information I had which I felt warranted an investigation. All the information I have written on this matter I have verified and have invited the press to verify, unfortunately the press in Arizona is lazy. If you ever want to play journalist however, you can research what I have written about this matter, I'm not going to give it to you, and you can go verify it yourself.  

4- In your article you state that three government agencies declined to pursue any action against Martin in 2004. What three government agencies? To my knowledge no government agency ever looked into this matter until the Attorney General's Office did and I have been following it very closely.  What is your source for that statement, Dean Martin? Or did you just make that up also ? If any government agency would have looked into there matter I wouldn't have been witting about it and demanding an investigation, would I ? 

Do me a favor Mr. Templer, the next time you include me in something you write, get your facts straight and get both sides of the story and maybe do a little research. 

BOB HARAN,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPEN LETTER TO LE TEMPLAR</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Templar;</p>
<p>If you are going to write about me, it might be a good  idea to contact me and verify your facts before hand. Frankly, just about everything you wrote in the paragraph where my name is mentioned is wrong. </p>
<p>1. You claim that I continue to complain loudly about Martin&#8217;s spending in the 2004 race for his last term in the state Senate. Wrong, I have been writing about Martin&#8217;s redirecting of campaign contributions into his own pocket for almost three years and urging the press to investigate what appeared to be the laundering of campaign contributions through two apparently front companies. Since it has been announced that the FBI is investigating, I have been pretty quite about the matter, except for my reply to Mr. Martin&#8217;s insults about me published in the Capitol Times. Or maybe it&#8217;s just that the press is just starting to take notice now that the FBI is involved. All I wanted was an investigation and I got it, now the matter is up to the authorities to handle.  </p>
<p>2. In your next sentence you claim that I&#8217;m convinced that Martin broke several state campaign finance laws because Martin paid himself and his wife for expenses related to the campaign. First, I never said that, I never wrote that. Since you don&#8217;t reveal your source for that statement, I can only assume you made it up. Let me set you straight, I never accused Martin of breaking any campaign finance laws. I know of not a single campaign finance law that he may have broken and certainly not several. If you had none the simplest research before you started writing you would have discovered that I have only accused Martin of intentionally or knowingly violating Arizona Revised Statue, 38-504.C, Conflict of Interest of Officers, Prohibited Acts, a Class 6 felony.  In brief what I&#8217;m alleging that Mr. Martin did was to aggressively solicit campaign contributions from persons with business before the legislature and by a circuitous route, redirected those contributions through two business entities he and his wife controlled, allegedly for services, and then into his own pocket. In short Mr. Templer, I discovered that Dean Martin turned his public office into a profit making entity for himself. Maybe Mr. Martin and yourself fell that is perfectly OK, but some of us citizens find it a bit corrupt and the law calls it a conflict of interest.   </p>
<p>Also, if I were merely alleging that Martin was just paying himself and his wife for expenses related to his campaign, there would be no need for an investigation because no law would have been broken and the Attorney General&#8217;s Office wouldn&#8217;t have turned the matter over to the FBI if that were the case. Let me make this very simple for you, I don&#8217;t belief the business&#8217; were real. I don&#8217;t believe that his largest campaign expenditure of $11,903.76 for printing with his company, Digital Print Design, which was just a rented mail drop with no telephone listing, or web site or any other method of marketing was a legitimate business. I don&#8217;t believe his second largest campaign expenditure, $7,331.54, for &#8220;voter outreach,&#8221; to his wife&#8217;s company, Grassroots Programs, which was based at the same rented mail drop and which also had no telephone listing or web site or any other method of marketing, was legitimate. Nor do I believe that the over $12,000 that Mr. Martin spent on various electronic and computer equipment, which he gets to keep under his own control was entirely campaign related.  </p>
<p>3- You make a statement that I haven&#8217;t provided any direct evidence that Martin took money he didn&#8217;t actually use on the campaign. What I provided the AG&#8217;s office with was the information I had which I felt warranted an investigation. All the information I have written on this matter I have verified and have invited the press to verify, unfortunately the press in Arizona is lazy. If you ever want to play journalist however, you can research what I have written about this matter, I&#8217;m not going to give it to you, and you can go verify it yourself.  </p>
<p>4- In your article you state that three government agencies declined to pursue any action against Martin in 2004. What three government agencies? To my knowledge no government agency ever looked into this matter until the Attorney General&#8217;s Office did and I have been following it very closely.  What is your source for that statement, Dean Martin? Or did you just make that up also ? If any government agency would have looked into there matter I wouldn&#8217;t have been witting about it and demanding an investigation, would I ? </p>
<p>Do me a favor Mr. Templer, the next time you include me in something you write, get your facts straight and get both sides of the story and maybe do a little research. </p>
<p>BOB HARAN,<br />
Phoenix, AZ</p>
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