Comments on: Recall attempt of Pinal County sheriff is a mistake http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/ Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:42:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Le Templar http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-578 Le Templar Tue, 27 May 2008 16:15:48 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-578 I need to make one clarification to the original post. I think Sheriff Vasquez's plagiarism is extremely serious. I fully support the Tribune Editorial Board's views. But I live and work in Maricopa County, and before the recall petition was filed, we hadn't heard much criticism out of Pinal County about this. But as you can see from the earlier comments, we definitely are hearing some now! I need to make one clarification to the original post. I think Sheriff Vasquez’s plagiarism is extremely serious. I fully support the Tribune Editorial Board’s views. But I live and work in Maricopa County, and before the recall petition was filed, we hadn’t heard much criticism out of Pinal County about this. But as you can see from the earlier comments, we definitely are hearing some now!

]]> By: desertrat http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-576 desertrat Mon, 26 May 2008 14:14:40 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-576 The plagiarism issue is minor icing on the cake to the deeper and more thoroughly corruptive tactics of Sheriff Vasquez's growing cancer. The sad thing is that he's so busy concocting a "public image" (as if he's LAPD) that ordinary services of the Sheriff's Office are being sadly neglected and are understaffed to the crisis point. He seems to have no idea what is really going on out in the field of his employees, and seems not to care about the unnecessary expense and ultra-stress that has resulted. He has taken over the helm of a corruptive system of operation from the former sheriff and turned it into a growing disaster. Ask any victim who has called the Sheriff's Office for ordinary daily needs what they think of the response. He needs to learn that the Sheriff's Office is not a political regime, but a public service. The plagiarism issue is minor icing on the cake to the deeper and more thoroughly corruptive tactics of Sheriff Vasquez’s growing cancer. The sad thing is that he’s so busy concocting a “public image” (as if he’s LAPD) that ordinary services of the Sheriff’s Office are being sadly neglected and are understaffed to the crisis point.

He seems to have no idea what is really going on out in the field of his employees, and seems not to care about the unnecessary expense and ultra-stress that has resulted. He has taken over the helm of a corruptive system of operation from the former sheriff and turned it into a growing disaster. Ask any victim who has called the Sheriff’s Office for ordinary daily needs what they think of the response. He needs to learn that the Sheriff’s Office is not a political regime, but a public service.

]]> By: desertbeach http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-574 desertbeach Sat, 24 May 2008 14:38:30 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-574 I agree with Q2theC, The letter only came about after he "laughed" and scoffed. Once everyone scolded him, politically he had to try and save face. Anyone with an education higher than 8th grade could see his "apology" letter is nothing more than a campaign ad about his rightousness. As a Pinal citizen, I want an apology for taking not just words, but other's expieriances and passing it off as his own. What a shame. It shows everyone how little expieriance he truely has and it is not about how may years but what you did with them that count. I agree with Q2theC, The letter only came about after he “laughed” and scoffed. Once everyone scolded him, politically he had to try and save face.
Anyone with an education higher than 8th grade could see his “apology” letter is nothing more than a campaign ad about his rightousness.

As a Pinal citizen, I want an apology for taking not just words, but other’s expieriances and passing it off as his own. What a shame. It shows everyone how little expieriance he truely has and it is not about how may years but what you did with them that count.

]]> By: Wrong! http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-573 Wrong! Sat, 24 May 2008 09:09:00 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-573 Mr. Templar, your first sentence is rather troubling: "Someone in Pinal County thinks routine plagiarism is a serious offense." That's because it IS a serious offense for an officer of the law to be breaking laws--ANY laws--that he or she is sworn to uphold. I would encourage you, Mr. Templar, as a professional journalist not to even appear to condone Mr. Vasquez' unapologetic attitude about his illegal activity. The fact of the matter: Plagiarism IS a serious problem. It's a matter of U.S. copyright law. If Mr. Vasquez doesn't know those laws or understand them, AND if he further believes it's not a big deal if he breaks those laws, he doesn't deserve to hold the title of sheriff. It's that simple. If Mr. Vasquez were a student at any accredited university in Arizona, he would be facing disciplinary action and possible expulsion for knowingly representing someone else's words as his own. Why in the devil is it somehow MORE excusable to plagiarize as a county sheriff? Mr. Templar, kindly direct me to the nearest recall petition instead of trying to minimize what Mr. Vasquez did. Mr. Templar, your first sentence is rather troubling: “Someone in Pinal County thinks routine plagiarism is a serious offense.” That’s because it IS a serious offense for an officer of the law to be breaking laws–ANY laws–that he or she is sworn to uphold. I would encourage you, Mr. Templar, as a professional journalist not to even appear to condone Mr. Vasquez’ unapologetic attitude about his illegal activity.

The fact of the matter: Plagiarism IS a serious problem. It’s a matter of U.S. copyright law. If Mr. Vasquez doesn’t know those laws or understand them, AND if he further believes it’s not a big deal if he breaks those laws, he doesn’t deserve to hold the title of sheriff. It’s that simple.

If Mr. Vasquez were a student at any accredited university in Arizona, he would be facing disciplinary action and possible expulsion for knowingly representing someone else’s words as his own. Why in the devil is it somehow MORE excusable to plagiarize as a county sheriff?

Mr. Templar, kindly direct me to the nearest recall petition instead of trying to minimize what Mr. Vasquez did.

]]> By: Ethan Groh http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-572 Ethan Groh Sat, 24 May 2008 03:54:17 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-572 I am the one who started the recall this is a good article but I need to clear some things up, I researched this all the way through I understand everything he said about the recall being close to the elections and he is right I am doing this to make a point to see how mad the public is about this, if you go to 85239.com you can get more of how I feel on there story, and I dont think plagiarism in itself if a very serious offense depending on who and why, my problem is with the entire set of events before and after, how long he had been doing this, he is a Sheriff, he sits on the AZ-POST and judges others for this same type of dishonesty, as for am I doing this for public attention well I will let the public be the judge of that, so tell me am I. I am the one who started the recall this is a good article but I need to clear some things up, I researched this all the way through I understand everything he said about the recall being close to the elections and he is right I am doing this to make a point to see how mad the public is about this, if you go to 85239.com you can get more of how I feel on there story, and I dont think plagiarism in itself if a very serious offense depending on who and why, my problem is with the entire set of events before and after, how long he had been doing this, he is a Sheriff, he sits on the AZ-POST and judges others for this same type of dishonesty, as for am I doing this for public attention well I will let the public be the judge of that, so tell me am I.

]]> By: Q2theC http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/147/#comment-571 Q2theC Fri, 23 May 2008 22:02:54 +0000 http://whatiknow.freedomblogging.com/2008/05/23/recall-attempt-of-pinal-county-sheriff-is-a-mistake/#comment-571 Disagree: 1. Routine plagiarism IS a serious offense. 2. He "apologized" only IF his acts were plagiarism. He believed they were not, therefore he didn't apologize. 3. It certainly would not be confusing for Vasquez to be selected the Democrat nominee the day he is removed from office. Come on, people really aren't so stupid. Agree: 1. The election is too close for the recall to be necessary. 2. Groh would better serve those who agree with him by focusing on defeating Vasquez in November. Disagree:
1. Routine plagiarism IS a serious offense.

2. He “apologized” only IF his acts were plagiarism. He believed they were not, therefore he didn’t apologize.

3. It certainly would not be confusing for Vasquez to be selected the Democrat nominee the day he is removed from office. Come on, people really aren’t so stupid.

Agree:
1. The election is too close for the recall to be necessary.

2. Groh would better serve those who agree with him by focusing on defeating Vasquez in November.

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